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    In 2023, G7 GDP is $70k/oz and BRICS $140k/oz

    M2 is 1777x M1 soon become infinity to M1 when both decouple where everyone is bankrupt except those who print and deposit to itself.

    And the Dark budget to gold is infinity/oz



    Source from https://usdebtclock.org/
    He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. ~ Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeEater View Post
    In 2023, G7 GDP is $70k/oz and BRICS $140k/oz

    M2 is 1777x M1 soon become infinity to M1 when both decouple where everyone is bankrupt except those who print and deposit to itself.

    And the Dark budget to gold is infinity/oz



    Source from https://usdebtclock.org/
    All I Know is.. I won't be selling MY Gold or silver any Time soon..
    the Idiots running 'Things' are out of control
    (on purpose or not) F-ing OUT OF CONTROL.
    x3

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    USdebtclock is gone.

    Fiat cartel is printing daily $300B openly and unknown amount secretly and shopping with air drop money just like crypto print digits and call that number money to buy. That is not buy but looting no difference to those rioters smashing shops and rob from groceries.

    Replace petroFiat to petroGold. Every fiat digits, crypto are all made up artificially that benefit only those who print, chaos will not end until fair trade begin with gold or silver. Gold backed scam has been tried for hundreds of years replace by cheque which can be forged, paper notes which can print to infinity, digital numbers in thousands of payment system in every symbol including crypto or any digital innovations are all arrificial creations which have no values except those who print fiat attempt to back the unit of crypto with fiat $ € £ ¥ which are infinite.

    All fintech are created by fintech and everyone use fiat digits as money. The crypto chain created artificial limit which is like debt ceiling which can be change by fork overnight just like raise the debt ceiling. If debt ceiling and BTC or any crypto limit is man made, they can be made to change as well. It is like some crypto concept to burn digits or add digits at time interval by algorithm to manipulate perceived value through scarcity.

    Scarcity is not values. When dog **** is scarce, nobody will pay higher price for more ****.
    He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. ~ Thomas Jefferson

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    huh?
    still around i see https://www.usdebtclock.org/

    i doubt the fed is afraid of the debt clock, they're gonna print regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowsnow View Post
    huh?
    still around i see https://www.usdebtclock.org/

    i doubt the FED is afraid of the debt clock, they're gonna print regardless

    Those who understand FED should be all Police who study psychology for criminals. They are the same and use all deceptions and balance point by bribing every law enforcers. The brutal lethal force that they use to oppress others with fiat as bribery is the same threatening force they are depending on. They fire the CEO for fear of rebels and thus replace every politicians with all corruptions news they sponsored just like Military funding terrorists and supply them with outdated weapons to fight so they can be certain of 100% winning.


    This concept cannot be different to finance or power brockets where they need weak opponents where they can crash win even with rigging. Just like Casino use digital system to set the sure win % to all their machines. If Casino can be sure win 100%, imagine all the rest of market they they control 100% the winning rate. To attract all gamers like Casino, they have to create a fake illusions to make all feel they have a chance to win.

    Same for Gold market, people are given false hope of rising value of Gold value in fiat digits where they can rig by empty gold vault, wash trade that pay those who rig price up and down without ANY gold.

    They have overly dependant on digital system and those who want to crash it with Black Cyber day with a switch is promoting cashless so they can shut down like switch on and off button just like any machineries design. The single point of failures is not the cashless digital control but the buggy design of the system that replicate to all. When the system failed like Microsoft Blue screen, it will not be a RESET but a permanent data corruptions that they unable to recover same like a collapse buildings you cannot RESET but only to rebuild. All data of usdebtclock is maintain by those who rig market, they could easily claim data corruptions one day and perform a RESET and play the game from fresh again.
    Last edited by SnakeEater; 12-19-2023 at 07:45 PM.
    He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. ~ Thomas Jefferson

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    100mg Gold foil currencies should easily replace all fiat with a value of 100mg Gold or Silver.

    To keep value of precious metal with high tech, all currencies could be made with functional energy where 100mg gold or 100mg silver have certain amount of power like battery which can be easily tested with a voltmeter. It will replace all fraudulent created digits from any crypto or gold back scam currencies where those rich can build spaceship to Mars with infinity money when billions of people are imprison with Mafia collecting fees like pirates for any movement of goods or human.
    He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. ~ Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeEater View Post
    100mg Gold foil currencies should easily replace all fiat with a value of 100mg Gold or Silver.

    To keep value of precious metal with high tech, all currencies could be made with functional energy where 100mg gold or 100mg silver have certain amount of power like battery which can be easily tested with a voltmeter. It will replace all fraudulent created digits from any crypto or gold back scam currencies where those rich can build spaceship to Mars with infinity money when billions of people are imprison with Mafia collecting fees like pirates for any movement of goods or human.
    haha, all cashier counter should have a XRF analyzer to check PM purity.
    Not worth it to fake micro thin PM film on a bill.
    It would bring the price of XRF too as i want to get one but it's too expensive now

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowsnow View Post
    haha, all cashier counter should have a XRF analyzer to check PM purity.
    Not worth it to fake micro thin PM film on a bill.
    It would bring the price of XRF too as i want to get one but it's too expensive now
    The biggest historical drawback to XRF was that the test does not penetrate very deep. A thin film of gold would solve that issue. The two remaining issues that come to my mind are that XRF machines are both expensive and a bit dangerous.

    A $10 test to confirm the validity of a $5 purchase is not a viable option. Putting open radiation sources in the hands of the masses seems problematic at best.

    The concept has legs. There are some details that require attention. XRF may not be the best type of test to pursue. Other choices may be better.
    “The Federal Reserve is not currently forecasting a recession.”
    Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, January 2008
    This is no longer posted in the Fed Minutes of January 2008, but still quoted here - https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna22592939. The FOMC minutes still quote MR. Reifschneider. as stating the same thing.

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    There is cryptic messages posted on USdebtclock "Thy Kingdom come", Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven".

    Do Angles in Heaven need money or it is time to end every monetary system on Earth and all Angels will live freely on Earth without any forms of money?
    He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. ~ Thomas Jefferson

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    I am always trying to determine valuation equilibrium. Based on today`s and historical reality/perception, not what I think they should be.
    Based on the below, gold is priced correctly, as if it was the currency all along, and properly administered.
    1929 was as far back as I could get good info. 94 years is a very long time, going through just about every type of crisis, so a very good indicator.

    1929 nominal GDP - 104.6 billion. 2023 nominal GDP - 27.75 trillion. factor of 265.3 ( nominal GDP eliminates any judgement of CPI and puts it in the hands of gold valuation in this context)

    1929 population - 122 million 2023 population - 336 million factor of 2.75

    So GDP per capita increased by factor of 96.5 ( you always have to take into account how many people are coming to supper)

    Gold price 1929 - 20.63 gold price currently - 2,062 factor of 100

    Difference is basically a rounding error over 94 years.

    Interesting, especially since Central banks all hold it, unlike anything else that is non fiat. Like everything it swings both ways away from its equilibrium ( generally due to government interventions) but it always seems to return to this ratio. It makes perfect sense, which is what is perplexing.

    What does this mean, if anything. If Gold is priced generally correctly now, then you can expect it to move with the nominal increase in GDP moving forward, absent government interference, or significant investor change, or major economic system change. Many would say this would be in the 3 to 6% range/ per year in next 5 years. ( of course population will increase - or will it - also. )

    Just an interesting perspective and entirely just my opinion and analysis.

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