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    Wished I would have bought options on the current price of pork bellies.....seeing bacon north of $18 bux and that was not a large package.
    (not a huge bacon consumer)

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    Thomas Jefferson is credited with writing, “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” The seceding states in the Civil War period issued a similar declaration using the word “tyranny” as opposed to “injustice.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertical1 View Post
    Wished I would have bought options on the current price of pork bellies.....seeing bacon north of $18 bux and that was not a large package.
    (not a huge bacon consumer)

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    I did a study on Leviticus 11 and decided to quite eating pork.

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    Trichinosis was the issue back then. Since it was difficult to fully cook meat thoroughly back then, the parasite often got ingested .

    The Jewish leadership back then decided to issue a "religious" edict rather than a health advisory, as they knew that would be a lot more followed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    Trichinosis was the issue back then. Since it was difficult to fully cook meat thoroughly back then, the parasite often got ingested .

    The Jewish leadership back then decided to issue a "religious" edict rather than a health advisory, as they knew that would be a lot more followed.
    I don't think God would have called it abhorrent for nothing. God made food for us to eat. He also made bottom dwellers to clean the seas (catfish, clams, oyster, lobster, crabs). These are not food. Just like Camels, pigs, dogs and cats are not food. Camels are great to ride, not food. Dogs are a man's best friend, not food.

    Rabbits, not food. They eat their own feces.

    Pigs, not food. Has nothing to do with trichinosis...unless you don't believe what God made as food. The sheet of animals that Peter saw has nothing to do with God now saying that everything is food. It has to do with bringing the Gospel to non-jews. Chicken has the same issue as pigs. Still Chicken is food, pigs are NOT.

    Bats, not food.
    Guinea Pigs, not food.
    White tailed deer, food.
    Cattle, food.
    Ants, not food.
    Slugs, not food.
    Chicken, food.
    Vultures, not food.
    Tuna, food.
    Eagles, not food.
    Bass, food.

    And so on.
    Last edited by Atlas Shrugged; 12-20-2021 at 02:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
    I don't think God would have called it abhorrent for nothing. God made food for us to eat. He also made bottom dwellers to clean the seas (catfish, clams, oyster, lobster, crabs). These are not food. Just like Camels, pigs, dogs and cats are not food. Camels are great to ride, not food. Dogs are a man's best friend, not food.

    Rabbits, not food. They eat their own feces.

    Pigs, not food. Has nothing to do with trichinosis...unless you don't believe what God made as food. The sheet of animals that Peter saw has nothing to do with God now saying that everything is food. It has to do with bringing the Gospel to non-jews. Chicken has the same issue as pigs. Still Chicken is food, pigs are NOT.

    Bats, not food.
    Guinea Pigs, not food.
    White tailed deer, food.
    Cattle, food.
    Ants, not food.
    Slugs, not food.
    Chicken, food.
    Vultures, not food.
    Tuna, food.
    Eagles, not food.
    Bass, food.

    And so on.
    I am reading the Bible now for the first time. It is a tough read, but I am determined to read I cover to cover. I was surprised the animals not sanctioned to eat by God. The "anything with paws" surprised me.
    Now there's no more oak oppression
    They passed a noble law
    Now the trees are all kept equal
    By hatchet, axe and saw.

    I will not comply.

    The Tea Party... quietly plotting to take over the world,
    and leave you the hell alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
    I don't think God would have called it abhorrent for nothing. God made food for us to eat. He also made bottom dwellers to clean the seas (catfish, clams, oyster, lobster, crabs). These are not food. Just like Camels, pigs, dogs and cats are not food. Camels are great to ride, not food. Dogs are a man's best friend, not food.

    Rabbits, not food. They eat their own feces.

    Pigs, not food. Has nothing to do with trichinosis...unless you don't believe what God made as food. The sheet of animals that Peter saw has nothing to do with God now saying that everything is food. It has to do with bringing the Gospel to non-jews. Chicken has the same issue as pigs. Still Chicken is food, pigs are NOT.

    Bats, not food.
    Guinea Pigs, not food.
    White tailed deer, food.
    Cattle, food.
    Ants, not food.
    Slugs, not food.
    Chicken, food.
    Vultures, not food.
    Tuna, food.
    Eagles, not food.
    Bass, food.

    And so on.
    As a Christian, growing up in a missionary family overseas, and also studying original direct transalations of the greek and hebrew texts of the old and new Teataments(prep for many hours of "discussions" with Jehova Witnesses). Literal translations, coupled with cultural bias.

    God is a loving, and fair God. So to follow the Hebrew dogma, issued by God directly to the Hebrews, to ensure their wellbeing.

    If the old testament is to be applied globally, then ALL pacific islanders, with no historical access to cloven footed livestock.....sorry, they must starve to be "pure"? Good nutritious proteins, arbitrarily forbidden for global populations, all can be traced back to problems with sanitation due to lack of preservation and refrigeration.

    Made moot by modern society finally understanding bacteria, and antimicrobial, and antiparasitic food prep practices.

    Just ask yourselves why Kosher food rules forbid certain things (ie: try to find out the reason why eating Cheese with cooked beef at the same time is forbidden, but eat a steak, wait an hour, and then eat cheese is ok..... Hmmm.... They all end up mixed together in your digeative system. Once again, in an unrefrigerated historical past, cross contamination with bacterial growth likely was leading factor in the creation of Kosher food prep practices.

    As a believer myself, growing up as a MK, serving as a tentmaker missionary in Japan in the 80's and 90's while working with Taisei and Sumitomo Heavy Industries, and naval ship systems development, GM Asia powergen systems, and seeing a whole country there eat almost exclusively Non kosher, the God I know would not apply Jewish Kosher restrictions on societies that are not Jewish, and have societally developed ways to eat healthy(ie: wasabe actually kills parasites in raw fish). Notice how the New Testament, direct words of Christ, and the revelations to the Apostles, written down, have no proscriptions on what they ate. Greeks, Romans diets were heavy non Kosher. Apostle Paul partook freely of these diets. Interesting, no?
    Last edited by shades; 12-21-2021 at 12:19 AM.

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    Each culture has its own food restrictions, many developed due to religious reasons, some due to learned behaviors. My deceased brother-in-law used to say: "if you won't eat a rat, then you aren't hungry enough". I hope we never get to the point that we are eating bugs, rats and earthworms! When stationed in S.E. Asia, during the Vietnam War, we ate mystery meat a few times being sold by street vendors, could have been monkey, cat, dog or GOK's. Don't ask, don't tell. But back in the land of the big PX, steamed clams, deep fired clam strips, lobster, king crab legs are all good eats. Seafood in general is at the top of my list. A long standing tradition (only for people from roots in Eastern PA?) is to have pork and sauerkraut for new years. Looking forward to it. A BLT sandwich is about as good as it gets too. A car bumper wrapped with bacon would most likely taste good too. So if I burn in hell I guess my eating habits will just add to my otherwise long intense pain and suffering in hell. All I can hope for is spending some time in Fiddler's Green before that.
    American Legion Preamble: https://www.legion.org/preamble

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    Quote Originally Posted by shades View Post
    As a Christian, growing up in a missionary family overseas, and also studying original direct transalations of the greek and hebrew texts of the old and new Teataments(prep for many hours of "discussions" with Jehova Witnesses). Literal translations, coupled with cultural bias.

    God is a loving, and fair God. So to follow the Hebrew dogma, issued by God directly to the Hebrews, to ensure their wellbeing.

    If the old testament is to be applied globally, then ALL pacific islanders, with no historical access to cloven footed livestock.....sorry, they must starve to be "pure"? Good nutritious proteins, arbitrarily forbidden for global populations, all can be traced back to problems with sanitation due to lack of preservation and refrigeration.

    Made moot by modern society finally understanding bacteria, and antimicrobial, and antiparasitic food prep practices.

    Just ask yourselves why Kosher food rules forbid certain things (ie: try to find out the reason why eating Cheese with cooked beef at the same time is forbidden, but eat a steak, wait an hour, and then eat cheese is ok..... Hmmm.... They all end up mixed together in your digeative system. Once again, in an unrefrigerated historical past, cross contamination with bacterial growth likely was leading factor in the creation of Kosher food prep practices.

    As a believer myself, growing up as a MK, serving as a tentmaker missionary in Japan in the 80's and 90's while working with Taisei and Sumitomo Heavy Industries, and naval ship systems development, GM Asia powergen systems, and seeing a whole country there eat almost exclusively Non kosher, the God I know would not apply Jewish Kosher restrictions on societies that are not Jewish, and have societally developed ways to eat healthy(ie: wasabe actually kills parasites in raw fish). Notice how the New Testament, direct words of Christ, and the revelations to the Apostles, written down, have no proscriptions on what they ate. Greeks, Romans diets were heavy non Kosher. Apostle Paul partook freely of these diets. Interesting, no?
    As it has been explained to me, the meat with milk prohibition is because God feels it is abhorant to mix life and death. Meat is the result of a death and milk is the essence of life. It is an affront to cook or eat the meat with the milk of the mother.... Not that I am
    am invested in the prohibition... I am a big sausage, biscuit and gravy guy.
    Now there's no more oak oppression
    They passed a noble law
    Now the trees are all kept equal
    By hatchet, axe and saw.

    I will not comply.

    The Tea Party... quietly plotting to take over the world,
    and leave you the hell alone!

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    My take on this "unclean" food in Leviticus verse is that the New Testament shows a New Covenant with God and the Old Testament "Law" covenant
    was replaced with Jesus and his sacrifice for us. Further illistrated by Mark 7.18 "18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” " Leviticus was Old Testament.
    Thomas Jefferson is credited with writing, “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” The seceding states in the Civil War period issued a similar declaration using the word “tyranny” as opposed to “injustice.”

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    Do what you want, but I don't want to be smoke in the creators nostrils. Either way, I am not going to die from NOT eating pigs or clams or catfish. I love seafood and and ate all of them. But, it is apparent to me that they are not food:

    Isaiah 65

    65 I was ready to be sought by those who did not ask for me;
    I was ready to be found by those who did not seek me.
    I said, “Here I am, here I am,”
    to a nation that was not called by my name.
    2
    I spread out my hands all the day
    to a rebellious people,
    who walk in a way that is not good,
    following their own devices;
    3
    a people who provoke me
    to my face continually,
    sacrificing in gardens
    and making offerings on bricks;
    4
    who sit in tombs,
    and spend the night in secret places;
    who eat pig's flesh,
    and broth of tainted meat is in their vessels;
    5
    who say, “Keep to yourself,
    do not come near me, for I am too holy for you.”
    These are a smoke in my nostrils,
    a fire that burns all the day.
    6
    Behold, it is written before me:
    “I will not keep silent, but I will repay;
    I will indeed repay into their lap
    7
    both your iniquities and your fathers' iniquities together,
    says the Lord;
    because they made offerings on the mountains
    and insulted me on the hills,
    I will measure into their lap
    payment for their former deeds.”

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