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    Some of those countries economic sectors do better to have less middlemen involved, they don't allow things like medical care to commercialize themselves, every time you see a pharmaceutical or health care anything commercial on TV your health insurance costs just went up.

    And, that's good for the stock market.

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    Trump is gambling all or nothing, who was it who said : east is east and west is west and they will never meet?

    It is impossible to change the cultural approach of one billion people on the one side and one billion on the otherside.
    To the east, inventing, copying and making the next copy better than the original is an admired cultural exploit, whereas to the west it is a a source of allowing to exploit the other.

    That's why it is impossible to come to terms.

    Ps i think americans are not able anymore to reindustrialize, too many have lost the ball. In Europe ( in some countries more than other ) preserved our industrial tissue, so we are IMO " somehow" better off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golditiki2 View Post
    Trump is gambling all or nothing, who was it who said : east is east and west is west and they will never meet?

    It is impossible to change the cultural approach of one billion people on the one side and one billion on the otherside.
    To the east, inventing, copying and making the next copy better than the original is an admired cultural exploit, whereas to the west it is a a source of allowing to exploit the other.

    That's why it is impossible to come to terms.

    Ps i think americans are not able anymore to reindustrialize, too many have lost the ball. In Europe ( in some countries more than other ) preserved our industrial tissue, so we are IMO " somehow" better off.

    Golditiki2+++
    I think you are right about americans is a little late to industrialize. Tic tock.
    back to the topic of this thread trump played hardball about trade tariffs over the weekend with China. Hum did the market rebound around Christmas 2018? Trump delayed the China sanction for 90 days about the same time and the markets rebounded. so if trump is tightening the screws c trade wars maybe we get a rerun correction until he caves again and then markets rebound.if correction in Fall of 18 had nothing to do with the trade war spat sanctions at that time then maybe the markets keep moving north but doubt the market will keep the pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukadan View Post
    I think you are right about americans is a little late to industrialize. Tic tock.
    back to the topic of this thread trump played hardball about trade tariffs over the weekend with China. Hum did the market rebound around Christmas 2018? Trump delayed the China sanction for 90 days about the same time and the markets rebounded. so if trump is tightening the screws c trade wars maybe we get a rerun correction until he caves again and then markets rebound.if correction in Fall of 18 had nothing to do with the trade war spat sanctions at that time then maybe the markets keep moving north but doubt the market will keep the pace
    We are not living in a capitalistic or socialistic orld, we are living in an irrealistic world. The whole trade war and the trade deficit has been constructed by the american and european big banks and companies. The outsourcing to low wage countries was intentional. The demand for " cheap goods" was blinding almost everybody and the profiteers have been the distribution. First people consumed with what they had in savings and wages and when that barrel was dry with debt.
    The Chinese are not the culprits, WE are !!! Well not me because I have been fighting outsourcing and the germans did not outsource as much like the french, so that's why commoners are better off. Everybody is now jealous but they at least did the right thing. They still understood that without a job one cannot consume.

    I agree that the US certainly could rebuild production, but that would also to close the mexican border, because a lot of so called " made in USA" stuff is made south of the Rio Grande.

    Further I guess there are no professional schools anymore or almost anymore, and retooking all industries would demand enormous investments. To fund such a revivel demands a wallet with savings and these do not exist anymore, One cannot transform a pile of debt into a saved money horn of abundance.

    To renovate the country would moreover need a positive attitude of the population and as far i can read, Well paid devils are pitting everybody against everybody.

    IMO trump is attacking the wrong society, the real economical enney is within the borders of the US, it are those companies who under the flag of proposing cheap goods for the wellbeing of the consumer that are the bad boys. They plunder and the producer and the consumer and squirrel the benefits into taxhavens and the top is that people admire the bosses of these vampires.

    I were trump i would put 100 pct taxes on all imports from wherever they come.
    Cheap food, housing and good products are delivering richess to a country. I have nothing against the financial industry which enables these goals.

    The problem is that we devied so far from the right track we might not be able to mend things before it is too late.

    We are confronted with a production of hundreds of millions of qualified engineers whereas we have to import them.

    We should united get back to common sense, but can we?

    Golditiki2+++

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    what a Joke.. Trade wars, the Actual state of our Economy, GDP, the Unemployment rate.
    Like the "market" cares LOL... Yesterday was telling IF you paid any Attention.
    oh, and don't forget about that upcoming 2020 Election thingy!

    26,239 DOW at the moment.
    x3

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    Quote Originally Posted by golditiki2 View Post
    We are not living in a capitalistic or socialistic orld, we are living in an irrealistic world. The whole trade war and the trade deficit has been constructed by the american and european big banks and companies. The outsourcing to low wage countries was intentional. The demand for " cheap goods" was blinding almost everybody and the profiteers have been the distribution. First people consumed with what they had in savings and wages and when that barrel was dry with debt.
    The Chinese are not the culprits, WE are !!! Well not me because I have been fighting outsourcing and the germans did not outsource as much like the french, so that's why commoners are better off. Everybody is now jealous but they at least did the right thing. They still understood that without a job one cannot consume.

    I agree that the US certainly could rebuild production, but that would also to close the mexican border, because a lot of so called " made in USA" stuff is made south of the Rio Grande.

    Further I guess there are no professional schools anymore or almost anymore, and retooking all industries would demand enormous investments. To fund such a revivel demands a wallet with savings and these do not exist anymore, One cannot transform a pile of debt into a saved money horn of abundance.

    To renovate the country would moreover need a positive attitude of the population and as far i can read, Well paid devils are pitting everybody against everybody.

    IMO trump is attacking the wrong society, the real economical enney is within the borders of the US, it are those companies who under the flag of proposing cheap goods for the wellbeing of the consumer that are the bad boys. They plunder and the producer and the consumer and squirrel the benefits into taxhavens and the top is that people admire the bosses of these vampires.

    I were trump i would put 100 pct taxes on all imports from wherever they come.
    Cheap food, housing and good products are delivering richess to a country. I have nothing against the financial industry which enables these goals.

    The problem is that we devied so far from the right track we might not be able to mend things before it is too late.

    We are confronted with a production of hundreds of millions of qualified engineers whereas we have to import them.

    We should united get back to common sense, but can we?

    Golditiki2+++
    In support of much of what you say, when the US was coming out of the height of it's hegemonic economic power (60s) it thought it could do anything - so it tried.

    Some excuses in the 70s were, the digital world would eliminate paper and the knowledge worker would be king.

    American innovative thinking and capability would suffice for continuance of our wealth leadership and per capita success.

    Lowering costs by outsourcing was good.

    Sending inflated dollars over-seas for hard goods was soaking the suckers.

    ...more such foolishness.

    Post ww2 illustrates that nothing breads failure than success - if you lose your sense of reality.
    Who are the righteous? ....Markpti

    What value did Burisma think to gain by hiring Hunter Biden as a Board member vs ALL other choices?

    Those who cannot articulate the other argument do not fully understand their own argument.

    "Much can be done by wise legislation and by resolute enforcement of the law. But still much more must be done
    by steady training of the individual - in conscience and character...." .......T. Roosevelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markpti View Post
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    Post ww2 illustrates that nothing breads failure than success - if you lose your sense of reality.
    We are infested with people who have lost all sense of reality and that is why we are where we are. A never happy ME-ME society.

    Ps when rabid journalism everyday overwhelms yr senses with extreme behaviour and pretends it to be normal, how can one imagine that people are behaving in a human way?

    I guess we have forgotten what it means to be HUMAN ( = be able to curb the extremes of our instincts ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by golditiki2 View Post
    We are infested with people who have lost all sense of reality and that is why we are where we are. A never happy ME-ME society.

    Ps when rabid journalism everyday overwhelms yr senses with extreme behaviour and pretends it to be normal, how can one imagine that people are behaving in a human way?

    I guess we have forgotten what it means to be HUMAN ( = be able to curb the extremes of our instincts ).

    Golditiki2+++
    I think we agree.
    Who are the righteous? ....Markpti

    What value did Burisma think to gain by hiring Hunter Biden as a Board member vs ALL other choices?

    Those who cannot articulate the other argument do not fully understand their own argument.

    "Much can be done by wise legislation and by resolute enforcement of the law. But still much more must be done
    by steady training of the individual - in conscience and character...." .......T. Roosevelt

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    25,599........... Yawn. it means Nothing.
    the "Market" will go back up again in a Jiffy. No Worries!
    x3

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverone View Post
    25,599........... Yawn. it means Nothing.
    the "Market" will go back up again in a Jiffy. No Worries!
    Yep, no need to worry. This is a classic over-reaction to a breakdown in trade talks. Both sides have a vented interest in ironing out their differences. An agreement WILL be made. It's just a matter of profiting from scared investors. I say, cash in on the easiest money on Wall Street.

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