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    Default You cannot ignore economic reality.

    You cannot ignore economic reality.

    Look at the big worries of the Fed chairman, Jerome Powell:

    ---huge debt
    ---balance sheet to be reduced (QT)
    ---government shutdown starting to show in economic data

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/10/fed-...f-us-debt.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/10/powe...y-smaller.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/10/fed-...omic-data.html

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    China: financial system in danger.

    China added 50 trillion $ in the last 4 years. Most of it is
    in financial assets: 25 $ in financial assets for every 1 $
    in GDP. Most of it is in SHADOW financial system.

    bad debt/GDP=80 %
    December 2018: PMI went smaller than 50, signaling an economy contraction.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...-talk-about-it

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak333 View Post
    GM spent 13.9 billions on stock buybacks...and its stock went down.

    GE spent 40 billions on stock buybacks......and its stock went down.

    Both GM and GE are in big trouble now.

    Looks fishy.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...e-ponzi-scheme
    Some stock buybacks make sense and are good.
    Some stock buybacks are bad. Eg: buybacks of
    the insiders' stocks.

    https://seekingalpha.com/article/425...stock-buybacks

    Case in point: NKE. No insider bought stock for years. There are
    other examples too.

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    How much is actually the USA debt?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...illion-dollars

    The federal debt is 22 trillion dollars....debt to foreigners.

    But what about the debt owned to yourself, like unfunded liabilities
    (pensions, health care...)

    It is ten times bigger: 222 trillion US $:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...illion-dollars

    My note: to me it seems unimaginable that stocks can go up with such huge debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak333 View Post
    How much is actually the USA debt?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...illion-dollars

    The federal debt is 22 trillion dollars....debt to foreigners.

    But what about the debt owned to yourself, like unfunded liabilities
    (pensions, health care...)

    It is ten times bigger: 222 trillion US $:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...illion-dollars

    My note: to me it seems unimaginable that stocks can go up with such huge debt.
    Debt is money, money is debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak333 View Post
    My note: to me it seems unimaginable that stocks can go up with such huge debt.
    Obviously, investors are ignoring economic reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BodieGhost View Post
    Obviously, investors are ignoring economic reality.



    I think most don't want to believe whats coming their way or are just numb to it.



    Larry knows this fragile economy needs lower rates ( To keep the game going longer) or it will just speed up the end game....Problem is the fed knows it needs higher rates to keep pensions afloat as long as possible. These low returns are killing pension funds


    White House advisor Larry Kudlow says Fed should ‘immediately’ cut rates

    Top White House economic advisor Larry Kudlow wants the Federal Reserve to “immediately” cut interest rates by 50 basis points.

    “I am echoing the president’s view — he’s not been bashful about that view — he would also like the Fed to cease shrinking its balance sheet. And I concur with that view,” Kudlow told CNBC on Friday.

    “Looking at some of the indicators — I mean the economy looks fundamentally quite healthy, we just don’t want that threat,” he added. “There’s no inflation out there, so I think the Fed’s actions were probably overdone.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver and Gold View Post
    I think most don't want to believe whats coming their way or are just numb to it.



    And I concur with that view,” Kudlow told CNBC on Friday.

    “Looking at some of the indicators — I mean the economy looks fundamentally quite healthy, we just don’t want that threat,” he added. “There’s no inflation out there, so I think the Fed’s actions were probably overdone.”
    NO INFLATION.... LOL!!!!
    you can't Make this S#IT up JEEEZZZUZZZ!
    I guess Gasoline going from $1.99 a Gallon at the end of Last year
    to $2.99 NOW is Just Smoke and NOISE Right?
    x3

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverone View Post
    NO INFLATION.... LOL!!!!
    you can't Make this S#IT up JEEEZZZUZZZ!
    I guess Gasoline going from $1.99 a Gallon at the end of Last year
    to $2.99 NOW is Just Smoke and NOISE Right?
    If the PTB says there is no inflation, the interpretation of your observation MUST be wrong.

    Golditiki2+++

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    Quote Originally Posted by golditiki2 View Post
    If the PTB says there is no inflation, the interpretation of your observation MUST be wrong.

    Golditiki2+++
    Right, and since the cost of 4G and the Android platforms have become so cheap for both phone and service...

    It's a trade off/wash.
    Small business is the incubator of employment. As it declines, so too do opportunities for first jobs, second chances and economic independence.

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