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    Same here...

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    Metal-free catalyst outperforms platinum in fuel cell.

    Researchers have discovered an inexpensive and easily produced catalyst that performs better than platinum in oxygen-reduction reactions.


    “The catalysts are more stable than platinum catalysts and tolerate carbon monoxide poisoning and methanol crossover.”
    A better, cheaper catalyst than scarce and costly platinum is required if hydrogen fuel cells and direct methanol fuel cells are to become realistic alternatives to fossil fuels, the authors say.
    “This initial research proves such catalysts work better than platinum,” Baek said. “We are working now to optimize the materials.”
    http://engineering.case.edu/metal-free-catalyst

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mytal View Post
    Metal-free catalyst outperforms platinum in fuel cell.

    Researchers have discovered an inexpensive and easily produced catalyst that performs better than platinum in oxygen-reduction reactions.


    “The catalysts are more stable than platinum catalysts and tolerate carbon monoxide poisoning and methanol crossover.”
    A better, cheaper catalyst than scarce and costly platinum is required if hydrogen fuel cells and direct methanol fuel cells are to become realistic alternatives to fossil fuels, the authors say.
    “This initial research proves such catalysts work better than platinum,” Baek said. “We are working now to optimize the materials.”
    http://engineering.case.edu/metal-free-catalyst
    From the Johnson Matthey November 2016 press release
    2017 OUTLOOK
    whilst primary supplies will be flat at best, there is potential for a rebound in autocatalyst recycling following two consecutive years of price‐related sluggishness. In most industrial sectors, the demand outlook remains firm, but purchases in the autocatalyst industry are likely to dip slightly as lower‐platinum‐loaded catalyst systems are introduced in increasing numbers in European vehicles. As demand in the Chinese jewellery sector seems set on a downward trend, market balance will likely depend on the extent of growth in autocatalyst recycling and the level of physical investment. Unless the latter remains at similar levels to those seen in 2016, we could see the platinum market return to a surplus for the first time since 2011.
    Last edited by Mytal; 11-26-2016 at 01:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louky 10/19 View Post
    No, I think it will be cheaper. The next low will be the buying opportunity. If I'm wrong, oh well, I have plenty of gold and silver from Dec bottom.
    Yup....

    Wait for the next bottom to establish before considering purchase

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    To go with post 23

    Heraeus Market Report
    Platinum forecast 2017
    Based on latest reports about a likely Platinum surplus in 2017 (supposedly the first since 2011), Platinum fell back from the previous week’s high at 1,020 $/oz to a level below 925 $/oz (support at mid-October low). The surplus would be a result of expectedly higher recycling volumes from autocatalysts as well as the subdued demand from the jewelry sector. The negative sentiment is further enforced by the expected changes in the automotive industry
    Last edited by Mytal; 11-26-2016 at 03:08 PM.
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    Platinum is Silver with a Gold price tag. No thanks.

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    Pt got a nice start for 2017, up 35 buck Jan 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowsnow View Post
    Pt got a nice start for 2017, up 35 buck Jan 3
    easy money

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    yep, ready to buy a half dozen ounces of bars and APE's just haven't found the best pricing yet. think i will wait until the coin show next weekend. i hope PT stays down where it is now for another week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwellsilverhammer View Post
    yep, ready to buy a half dozen ounces of bars and APE's just haven't found the best pricing yet. think i will wait until the coin show next weekend. i hope PT stays down where it is now for another week.
    Coin show sounds best for sure. Excited to hear what u end up with

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