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    The essence of trading the gold-silver ratio is to switch holdings when the ratio swings to historically determined "extremes." So, as an example:

    1.When a trader possesses one ounce of gold, and the ratio rises to an unprecedented 100, the trader would then sell his or her single gold ounce for 100 ounces of silver.

    2.When the ratio then contracted to an opposite historical "extreme" of, say, 50, the trader would then sell his or her 100 ounces for two ounces of gold.

    3.In this manner, the trader would continue to accumulate greater and greater quantities of metal, seeking "extreme" ratio numbers from which to trade and maximize his or her holdings.


    Read more: Trading The Gold-Silver Ratio http://www.investopedia.com/articles...#ixzz3n8H6ZCgt
    Last edited by Centrist; 09-29-2015 at 08:05 AM.

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    Prediction: Gold and Gold-Silver Ratio Up, Stocks Down.

    http://www.smarteranalyst.com/2015/0...p-stocks-down/

    When the price of gold moves up, traders expect the price of silver to move up even more. As we continue to warn, that may not be the case this time.

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    After running up over 100, the GSR is now dropping back to 60-something. https://www.kitco.com/Gold_Silver_Ra...io-charts.html

    In recent years, the high GSR was the reason why I favored silver purchases. The question is - how much lower will the GSR go? When will be the best time to swap silver for it's traditionally more-expensive yellow brother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist View Post
    The essence of trading the gold-silver ratio is to switch holdings when the ratio swings to historically determined "extremes." So, as an example:

    1.When a trader possesses one ounce of gold, and the ratio rises to an unprecedented 100, the trader would then sell his or her single gold ounce for 100 ounces of silver.

    2.When the ratio then contracted to an opposite historical "extreme" of, say, 50, the trader would then sell his or her 100 ounces for two ounces of gold.

    3.In this manner, the trader would continue to accumulate greater and greater quantities of metal, seeking "extreme" ratio numbers from which to trade and maximize his or her holdings.


    Read more: Trading The Gold-Silver Ratio http://www.investopedia.com/articles...#ixzz3n8H6ZCgt
    Historically, yes. In the coming year or two, no. There is already a massive shortage of silver, investment demand has recently surpassed industrial demand. A 16 year over year supply shortage has wiped out above ground supply(see the silver institute charts) and covid last year put a major damper on mining. ASE sales last year and so far this year are at historic levels and whats left to mint is drying up fast. I know there are a large handful of smart billionaires that are gobbling up what supply they can find. The distributors know this and that's why the online dealers are at $5 over spot for bars and $12 over spot for ASE's. This was written on the wall for all to see 5 years ago when silver bottomed at $13.80 (Dec 2015) and premiums were 3% over spot. The smart folks listened and have been backing up the truck over the past five years on all the dips.

    Right now gold is at $1800 and ASE's are selling at $39 That puts the current GSR at 46:1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hombre Plata View Post
    Historically, yes. In the coming year or two, no. There is already a massive shortage of silver, investment demand has recently surpassed industrial demand. A 16 year over year supply shortage has wiped out above ground supply(see the silver institute charts) and covid last year put a major damper on mining. ASE sales last year and so far this year are at historic levels and whats left to mint is drying up fast. I know there are a large handful of smart billionaires that are gobbling up what supply they can find. The distributors know this and that's why the online dealers are at $5 over spot for bars and $12 over spot for ASE's. This was written on the wall for all to see 5 years ago when silver bottomed at $13.80 (Dec 2015) and premiums were 3% over spot. The smart folks listened and have been backing up the truck over the past five years on all the dips.

    Right now gold is at $1800 and ASE's are selling at $39 That puts the current GSR at 46:1
    real GSR is spot price and not some silly GOLD spot vs Eagles.
    BTW, Platinum is undervalued to silver via the historical PSR ratio as well.
    IMO GSR should sit at 50 when dividing spot/spot so silver is still undervalued. We are sitting at 66 and not 46
    Last edited by Nikko; 02-16-2021 at 06:34 PM.

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    I've got an ASE on the bay right now for $30 13 views in 5 days, no bids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everything1 View Post
    I've got an ASE on the bay right now for $30 13 views in 5 days, no bids.
    Trying to get it to sell faster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by everything1 View Post
    I've got an ASE on the bay right now for $30 13 views in 5 days, no bids.
    what shipping price do you have on it? that all adds up. now even the tax is added sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwellsilverhammer View Post
    what shipping price do you have on it? that all adds up. now even the tax is added sometimes
    Shipping and tax are definitely things that must be added to the cost when calculating what one pays per ounce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikko View Post
    real GSR is spot price and not some silly GOLD spot vs Eagles.
    BTW, Platinum is undervalued to silver via the historical PSR ratio as well.
    IMO GSR should sit at 50 when dividing spot/spot so silver is still undervalued. We are sitting at 66 and not 46

    I am talking about the actual point of executing a trade, not fantasizing about it based on numbers on a screen. Tit for tat, A gold eagle for ASE's you will never get 66 to 1. No LCS or SGE (silver/gold exchange) will give you 66 ASE's for your gold eagle. I checked on the prices locally yesterday and if I was to walk into my SGE they would have given $1750 on the GE then charged me $38 each for the ASE's that's $1750 divided by $38 regardless of where I got them at so yeah, that's 46:1 not 66:1. In the real world you have to factor in the buy sell spread and premiums on the delivery end. The same would hold true if it was a gold bar for silver bars. Buy price on gold bars is around $1700 and their sell price on silver bars is around $32.50 which puts it around
    52:1 a little better. Right now premiums on silver are high and that's why I said right now is not a good time to swap. No one will trade you their silver for spot price, and no one will give you spot for your gold, your living in a fantasy world and it sounds like you have never liquidated anything based on your comments.

    If you can find someone stupid enough to give you 66 oz. of silver for an ounce of gold let me know because I will gladly swap some out...
    Last edited by Hombre Plata; 02-17-2021 at 11:43 AM.
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    There is only ONE race of people on this planet, the human race.

    Do not be deceived, Darwin’s theory of Evolution is racist. When Darwin is properly understood, it leads to the justification for believing that certain races of people are by birth and nature superior to others and that is the definition of racism.

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