Fake Morgan Dollars are becoming epidemic!!!

[dcarr]

The coins look cleaned, but genuine.

Your pictures are not the best for purposes of authentication, however.
Can you take a sharp close-up picture of both sides of one fake
(with zoom so that the coin image fills the entire view area) ?

And also, how about a close-up of the spot where the acid test failed ?

Note that the height of the rim is based on the striking pressure, which can vary widely across the Morgan Dollar series.
A higher rim can make a coin look much thicker at the edge, even when the original blank it was struck on had the same thickness as all the others.

[4AMJAVA]

There is a Fisch counterfeit detector available for silver dollars. Now it is true that a scale and caliper will perform a similar function, but particularly if you have a bunch you want to test, it's handy and slips into a shirt pocket.

They ain't cheap, but there's also something to be said for peace of mind. It's a simple device actually - and utilizes the known properties of a genuine 90 per cent silver dollar in terms of weight and size. If the counterfeiters were to fake a numismatic rarity using the proper alloy then other techniques would have to be used to judge authenticity. But if your interest is mainly common date dollars then the Fisch device is worth your consideration for sure. I have no connection with the firm other than as a satisfied customer.

[sorionc]

The fakes are a little bit thicker compared to a real Morgan. I do not have a good caliper to get the exact thickness. Diameter seems spot on with the fakes. I plan on adding a good caliper into my kit now that I know what I am up against with fakes that are just to real looking.

Can you take a pic of a fake and real in on their edge so we can get an idea of the thickness? Sorry to make you work but would love to get an idea what we're up against.

Got nervous for a min had to go through all my Morgan's with calipers and the scale!

[sorionc]

The coins look cleaned, but genuine.

Your pictures are not the best for purposes of authentication, however.
Can you take a sharp close-up picture of both sides of one fake
(with zoom so that the coin image fills the entire view area) ?

And also, how about a close-up of the spot where the acid test failed ?

Note that the height of the rim is based on he striking pressure, which can vary widely across the Morgan Dollar series.
A higher rim can make a coin look much thicker at the edge, even when the original blank it was struck on had the same thickness as all the others.

Gotta agree with you I couldn't really spot anything wrong with it. But with little wear I can't see the weight being that far off. Unless scale isn't calibrated. Have you checked this recently? It's good to have something of a known weight. I got a 500g weight to calibrate. Works good because my scale will only recalibrate to 500g

[TwoHorses]

https://www.kitcomm.com/showthread.php?t=83421

We discussed it here too -

[nownow]

Theres a guy running around the flea markets and LCS selling morgan fakes. He has a binder FULL of them. He was spotted in Charlotte and now in South Carolina. They've been trying to catch him (or his team). The local seller in SC had his locker broken into and robbed of 20K worth of coins. I'm sticking to ASEs.

[ParlayTheHard8]

Theres a guy running around the flea markets and LCS selling morgan fakes. He has a binder FULL of them. He was spotted in Charlotte and now in South Carolina. They've been trying to catch him (or his team). The local seller in SC had his locker broken into and robbed of 20K worth of coins. I'm sticking to ASEs.

Good luck, that's probably next....

[Autalkin2me]

Have any of those fakes passed the simple method of sliding a rare earth magnet down it?

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Have any of those fakes passed the simple method of sliding a rare earth magnet down it?

How big do you think a morgan coin is to do such test? What gives you the idea lead and copper are not diamagnetic? An alloy of copper + lead (Molybdochalkos) with a layer of silver plating will provide the correct weight and effect you are looking for when you are looking at "sliding a rare earth magnet" trick.

[captainsilverton]

Those would probably fool most, self included.

These will be everywhere in no time.

How does the edge look? The few fakes I've touched all had poor quality reeding.

the truth is they have been everywhere for awhile...

also much paranoia exists, and rightly so, maybe, seen many a person claim they were holding fake Morgans..only to see and examine and they are most certainly real..... dyodd...but fear not with a bit of knowledge...

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