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    Default Fake Morgan Dollars are becoming epidemic!!!

    I encourage everyone to buy a scale and acid testing kit. While I have had several fake coins show up from ebay purchases over the last few years, most were steel, so they were easily detected with magnet(and those that are of the magnetic variety tend to be "easy" to spot anyway), but now the couterfeit morgans are of a whole new caliber. I recieved a batch of 10 coins today that I had bought on ebay. Of course the main picture in the auction is not of the fake coins he is selling. These coins are so close to looking authentic, but I just felt something didnt look right, so I put one on the scale. It weighed 26.3g, I then put another one on the scale and it was 25.8g. Then I knew I had a problem. The coins are all xFine so I knew it was not due to wear that they were that weight. I had bought an acid test kit a year ago, but I had yet to use it. So I rubbed a coin onto the stone, and put a drop of acid on it. To my amazement the metal simple bubbled a bit a dissolved away! The scary thing is these coins almost fooled me, and I had actually got a few extremely similar coins a few weeks back, but I only weighed those and thought they were close enough to be real and proceeded to put them into the mix, but I now believe they were also fakes. I cant do anything about the ones in the past, but this latest bunch I intend on getting my $320 back. I emailed the seller, awaiting their response.

    **BE AWARE OUT THERE! The EVIL IMMORAL, UNETHICAL, FRUADULENT SELLERS ARE FLOODING THE COIN MARKET WITH "HIGH QUALITY" FAKE SILVER DOLLARS MADE OF CRAP METAL!!**
    Last edited by ynot2k; 12-10-2012 at 05:19 PM. Reason: removed ebay item number - pls refrain from posting ebay item/usernames/links etc. (or similar auction sites)

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    all 10 were fake? what are the years and are they magnetic?
    Retired in 2009 at 39 years old, what day is today

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    Not magnetic. All 10 are fake.
    Years are
    1889
    1898
    1880
    1883
    1881
    1887
    1882
    1879

    Incidentally I do not usually agree with the ring test, in fact I think that can make some folks believe a coin is real because all coins 'ring', and the ring is not easy to discern from a real and fake coin. However..... After have these 10 fakes all together and move them around, and now that I have another stack of a few real coins, you can most defintely hear the difference in the 'chink'.
    Last edited by Heavy_Metal; 12-10-2012 at 06:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy_Metal View Post
    Not magnetic. All 10 are fake.
    Years are
    1889
    1898
    1880
    1883
    1881
    1887
    1882
    1879
    can u do us a favor, can you measure and post the thickness of fakes?
    or place a fake next to a real morgan and compare the thickness

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    Do they ring like a real morgan or peace dollar? Please let us know, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowsnow View Post
    can u do us a favor, can you measure and post the thickness of fakes?
    or place a fake next to a real morgan and compare the thickness
    The fakes are a little bit thicker compared to a real Morgan. I do not have a good caliper to get the exact thickness. Diameter seems spot on with the fakes. I plan on adding a good caliper into my kit now that I know what I am up against with fakes that are just to real looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy_Metal View Post
    The fakes are a little bit thicker compared to a real Morgan. I do not have a good caliper to get the exact thickness. Diameter seems spot on with the fakes. I plan on adding a good caliper into my kit now that I know what I am up against with fakes that are just to real looking.
    that's enough clue for me, extra thickness proved more non-silver metal is needed to pat up the weight. They didnt want to go too thick so they target slick/cull weight.
    Last edited by yellowsnow; 12-10-2012 at 07:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy_Metal View Post
    The fakes are a little bit thicker compared to a real Morgan. I do not have a good caliper to get the exact thickness. Diameter seems spot on with the fakes. I plan on adding a good caliper into my kit now that I know what I am up against with fakes that are just to real looking.
    a caliper won't hlep you much if u shopping online using photos.
    Even if possible, the sellers can post photo of real morgans while u get the fake ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy_Metal View Post
    The fakes are a little bit thicker compared to a real Morgan. I do not have a good caliper to get the exact thickness. Diameter seems spot on with the fakes. I plan on adding a good caliper into my kit now that I know what I am up against with fakes that are just to real looking.
    Can you take a pic of a fake and real in on their edge so we can get an idea of the thickness? Sorry to make you work but would love to get an idea what we're up against.

    Got nervous for a min had to go through all my Morgan's with calipers and the scale!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy_Metal View Post
    Not magnetic. All 10 are fake.
    Does the magnet do that weird thing when you move it rapidly over them?

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