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    No, I don't, but I do know that as interest rates...

    No, I don't, but I do know that as interest rates go up there will be motivation to pay back pensions as a direct result of a shrinking Net Pension Liability.
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    It'll be interesting to see what happens if the...

    It'll be interesting to see what happens if the interest rate continues to rise. We may start seeing more repayments on PBOs due to it becoming cheaper to make payments.
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