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    So do we need to send Golditiki2 back to 1912 to...

    So do we need to send Golditiki2 back to 1912 to enact some frontier justice?
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    Still waiting on your answer on who specifically...

    Still waiting on your answer on who specifically we should hold responsible since this is so easy........
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    I agree with part of your statement in spirit,...

    I agree with part of your statement in spirit, which is why I prefer 401(k)s over pensions. With a 401(k) you are not dependent on an employer or tax base to provide your retirement, you are only...
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    But the CEO isn't held responsible for decisions...

    But the CEO isn't held responsible for decisions made decades past. The public pension crisis could be solved if we raised taxes. Are you going to propose them? Are you going to vote for them? No?...
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    So let's start naming names. Who is responsible?...

    So let's start naming names. Who is responsible? You make it sound so easy, so let's solve it.
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    Market has been killing it since the recession...

    Market has been killing it since the recession lows when ZIRP became a thing, so it all depends on the pension fund and the rules for investing they have.
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    yeah -- it is hard to hold people Accountable,...

    yeah -- it is hard to hold people Accountable, because so much of it gets tied up in politics. For example, pension plans that were set in motion back in the 80s are now coming home to roost....
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    You can't just blame one side though....

    You can't just blame one side though. Government's are often compelled to give better benefits to employees. No one likes cutting pensions for police officers and firefighters. It is very difficult...
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    I understand there is pain. I am certainly not...

    I understand there is pain. I am certainly not taking pleasure in other's misfortune. My point was that having your retirement tied up in the health and ability of your employer to fund and direct...
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    I agree. People lament over pension plans, but...

    I agree. People lament over pension plans, but IMO they kind of suck.
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